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Friday Forum - April 8, 2011
What are your thoughts on a potential federal government shutdown due to the Democrats’ inability to meet the Republicans proposed spending cuts that are necessary to decrease our national deficit?
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Permalink Reply by Vicki McReynolds on -
From the same Wikipedia website linked above: "Application of the term troll is highly subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem strategy to discredit an opposing position by attacking its proponent. Calling someone a troll makes a negative assumption about that person's motives."
I am flabbergasted at the negative assumptions, incivility and intolerance of opposing ideas expressed by some on this website. No wonder "vitriolic" and "mean-spirited" are adjectives that the Dems have about us in their "playbook." By the way, does anyone have a link to this playbook?
I assert that intelligent educated well-meaning women can have opposing points of view and discuss them without vitriol, name-calling, putdowns, etc. Let's continue to try?
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Permalink Reply by Sonya Mayfield on
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I have been registered republican since I was 18. I have never felt any conflict up until George W Bush went to Iraq to "get the man who threatened my dad" Well he got out of there finally and things return to normal again UNTIL we decide to finance this on the backs of the elderly and poor. What are we doing?? I have talked to other republican, women and men and we are all saying this. Are we going to finance this so the elite gets richer? Bush did this for his rich friends which we certainly weren't helped by, when he financed bills to make businesses more powerful. Do we all remember how fast we got Bush and the other Republicans out of office? I don't want the representatives I do like to get hit by this. Boehner- think about it. The elections aren't that far off!
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Permalink Reply by Sally Johnson on
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Dick Cheney and Haliburton made billions off Bush's war. We have destroyed Iraq, people there were no worse off than the rest of the Middle East. The Soviet Union fell because the people there wanted a different kind of government. The stories of the young men and women coming back from Iraq with mental and physical problems breaks my heart. I agree with you Sonya, we must stop the very wealthy (the Koch brothers) from taking over our country - we must ask which is worse, the government of Big Business? It seems like conservatives are all for the government programs that help them (student aid, roads, water plants etc.) but not the programs that help lower income people. Helping lower income women prevent pregnancy saves this country money in the long run and allows these women and their children to lead better lives.Attacking NPR which is the only TV I would allow my son to watch is just plain stupid - do we want their minds filled with ads for Viagera and junk food .
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Hutton on -
You just outed yourself. At best, you are a RINO. Is it 2012 yet? 1/20/2013: The end of an Error.
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Permalink Reply by Thia on
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Outed indeed. They need a moderator for this board. Likely the same person is posting under several different names. It's so tired.
The end of an Error is fabulous!
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Permalink Reply by Anne Marie Taylor on
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Many thanks to Sonya Mayfield and Sally Johnson for your wise and heartening words! Check out today's (Friday, April 15
Democracy Now program; great discussion with author who reveals the 'scam' in the off-shore tax shelters. They are all ovr the place, including here! Trillions of dollars. Nope, that's not a typo: Trillions it is. Very much at the hands of Wall Street. All of this malfeasance falls on women, who have to hold everything together no matter what. And protect our children; keep them from discouragement or despair.
If women truly came together, no matter what one's basic ideas are about this or that party, this or that notion, and were willing to engage in genuine Counsel with one another (this exchange being a good start!) just imagine what we could get done!
best to all
Anne Marie Taylor
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Hutton on
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You may want to go to opensecrets.org and research how much Wall Street money goes to the Democrat candidates. Check out Goldman Sachs, etc. The lion's share goes to the Democrats. That is Wall Street. So many of our Democrat acquaintances believe that Wall Street is evil because they think that they are picking on the "evil" Republicans. But, if you look at the unions on opensecrets.org and also look at the union contributions, between Wall Street Investment Banking firms and the govt unions and other unions, you have the lion's share of money to the Dems. The off-shore funds are run by hedge funds, investment banking firms on Wall Street. If you want to pick on the off-shore funds, look at the people who run them. Not usually Republicans. There are exceptions, of course. Off-shore funds are there because it is a way for the wealthy to shelter their investments from high taxes. The highest tax system in the world causes those with wealth to export their capital to other places. Human nature. And a cadre of smart lawyers.
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Permalink Reply by Sonya Mayfield on
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I absolutely agree. BOTH parties have dirt on their hands!
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Permalink Reply by Anne Marie Taylor on
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You are correct; yet, the basic agenda of the Democrats is not to destroy democracy as we know it; destroy the entire public arena and take away all rights of workers to have any say, any safety in their lives - as is the case of the extreme right-wing that we have been warned about for years- but so easily fingerpoint at others who are also unethical to any degree. David Brock's book The Republican Noise Machine is an excellent source for understanding the more than 30 years of massive monies being poured into efforts to confound social justice in any of its facets. (I do not like that title; sounds too much like right-wing radio- but the essence of the book is very instructive - which is what we need; we need truth, not spin)
Unions are not the 'source of evil' as the right-wing would have us believe. check out Labor History and see how terrible situations were for workers (including children) before we had Labor Laws and Unions. Unions must be ethical, even more than corporations - but corporations must be changed from the inside out; held accountable for their actions or we are finished as a nation. Right now, they are 'adolescents' out of control and there are no parents present in their lives. Not acceptable.
We can do better than this...for sure.
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Hutton on
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LOL...this has been entertaining. But, I am getting bored. Over and out. Good bye........Sir
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Permalink Reply by Sally Johnson on
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My grandparents escaped from Soviet countries and came to America. They were all proud members of unions. Both my parents were able to graduate from college (took more than 4 years due to the depression). Had their parents not been union members they would not have been able to do so. Unions protect children and the people working. How can anyone not have sympathy for a person who dies from lung cancer and leaves a family behind. Our brother-in-law never smoked, when he died of lung cancer due to exposure to asbestos, he left behind 5 children. Of course, according to the far right, he could have worked in another field (maybe he could have chosen to be a chief executive).
I heard an interesting interview with Anne Heller regarding her book about Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand was extremely pro-choice (she had an abortion), had an affair while married and would definitely not support the idea of big business buying the favor of government. I will have to pick up a copy, sounds like a good read.
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